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19 Sep: @ 16:30:20  Harry Woodpecker in Westmoreland [Chris Bennett]
19 Sep: @ 15:36:55  Local RBA - Blackpoll Warbler at Philomath Sewage Ponds [Hendrik Herlyn]
19 Sep: @ 14:13:55  Yaquina South Jetty Bobolinks--Yes on 9/19 [Range Bayer]
19 Sep: @ 13:32:26  Yaquina South Jetty Bobolinks on 9/19--No Reports as of 11:30 AM [Range Bayer]
19 Sep: @ 09:29:00  Local RBA: Stilt Sandpiper [celata]
19 Sep: @ 09:29:00  Local RBA: Stilt Sandpiper [celata]
19 Sep: @ 01:16:44  Washington County - Parasitic Jaeger [Conor Scotland]
19 Sep: @ 01:01:40  Re: Avian die off in NM [Roger Freeman]
19 Sep: @ 01:01:40  Re: Avian die off in NM [Roger Freeman]
18 Sep: @ 23:38:30  Re: Help in identifying waxwings [Tom Crabtree]
18 Sep: @ 23:21:35  Re: Golden-crowned sparrow today [Paul Sullivan]
18 Sep: @ 23:21:35  Re: Golden-crowned sparrow today [Paul Sullivan]
18 Sep: @ 23:09:49  Re: Help in identifying waxwings [Tom Crabtree]
18 Sep: @ 23:00:35  Help in identifying waxwings [joy shreyer]
18 Sep: @ 22:39:28  Avian die off in NM [larspernorgren]
18 Sep: @ 22:37:07  *Re: Re: 2 Bobolinks at Yaquina South Jetty/Beach on 9/18 (Lincoln Co.) [Range Bayer]
18 Sep: @ 18:12:38  Klamath ELEGANT TERN & Palm Warbler [Russ Namitz]
18 Sep: @ 17:38:08  Re: 2 Bobolinks at Yaquina South Jetty/Beach on 9/18 (Lincoln Co.) [Stephen Holzman]
18 Sep: @ 17:31:55  Golden-crowned sparrow today [Maeve and Dick]
18 Sep: @ 16:46:59  Re: 2 Bobolinks at Yaquina South Jetty/Beach on 9/18 (Lincoln Co.) [Andy Thomas]
18 Sep: @ 16:41:42  Buff-breasted Sandpiper [Jules Evens]
18 Sep: @ 16:09:08  2 Bobolinks at Yaquina South Jetty/Beach on 9/18 (Lincoln Co.) [Range Bayer]
18 Sep: @ 14:38:06  Sabine’s Gull At HaggLk [Rick Bennett]
18 Sep: @ 10:58:17  Chestnut-sided Warbler -- Malheur HQ [Aaron Beerman]
18 Sep: @ 10:58:16  Re: 2020-2021 Oregon CBC dates? [Caryn Stoess]
18 Sep: @ 08:08:31  Re: YB Flycatcher vs. PS flycatcher, not the first? [Steve Kornfeld]
18 Sep: @ 07:28:10  YB Flycatcher vs. PS flycatcher, not the first? [Robert O'Brien]
17 Sep: @ 22:54:59  2020-2021 Oregon CBC dates? [David Bailey]
17 Sep: @ 20:01:06  confined by my age and our smoke [Harry Fuller]
17 Sep: @ 16:25:14  Re: A photo quiz [Hendrik Herlyn]
17 Sep: @ 16:21:08  Re: A photo quiz [Paul Sullivan]
17 Sep: @ 16:10:29  Re: A photo quiz [Bob Archer]
17 Sep: @ 16:06:05  Re: A photo quiz [Craig Miller]
17 Sep: @ 15:59:55  Re: A photo quiz [Zia Fukuda]
17 Sep: @ 15:59:55  Re: A photo quiz [Zia Fukuda]
17 Sep: @ 15:43:50  Re: A photo quiz [Pamela Johnston]
17 Sep: @ 15:14:01  Re: A photo quiz [Bob Archer]
17 Sep: @ 14:59:44  Re: 9/17 Fields birds [Jack Daynes]
17 Sep: @ 14:59:44  Re: 9/17 Fields birds [Jack Daynes]
17 Sep: @ 14:34:13  Re: A photo quiz [Andy Thomas]
17 Sep: @ 14:28:09  Re: A photo quiz [Alan Contreras]
17 Sep: @ 14:05:28  A photo quiz [Noah Strycker]
17 Sep: @ 13:58:06  Re: 9/17 Fields birds [larspernorgren]
17 Sep: @ 13:08:18  Mt. Tabor Black-crowned Night-heron [Christopher Hinkle]
17 Sep: @ 13:06:33  Re: 9/17 Fields birds [Alan Contreras]
17 Sep: @ 13:03:52  Re: 9/17 Fields birds [Redacted sender avitours for DMARC]
17 Sep: @ 12:32:13  Re: Nocturnal Flight Counts - McMinnville backyard [Phil Pickering]
17 Sep: @ 12:30:04  YTWA yesterday [Tim Shelmerdine]
17 Sep: @ 11:50:33  Yellow-bellied vs Western Flycatchers [Bob Archer]
17 Sep: @ 11:17:57  Re: Nocturnal Flight Counts - McMinnville backyard [Phil Pickering]





Subject: Harry Woodpecker in Westmoreland
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 16:30 pm
From: tayben7 AT gmail.com
 
We just a a Male Harry Woodpecker come to our suit feeder. We have lived here over 30+ years this is the first time I have seen one in this yard. We live near Westmoreland park.Chris Bennett



Subject: Local RBA - Blackpoll Warbler at Philomath Sewage Ponds
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 15:36 pm
From: hhactitis AT gmail.com
 
Hi all,
I can't offer a first state record, but I found a pretty good bird for Benton County today: a first-year BLACKPOLL WARBLER was in the SW corner at the Philomath Sewage Ponds around noon, moving with a small mixed flock. Alas, the little skulker did not come out long enough for any pictures.
Details and full list on eBird:https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...
Happy fall migration!
Hendrik--
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Hendrik G. Herlyn
Corvallis, OR

"Nature is not a place to visit. It is home."
-- Gary Snyder



Subject: Yaquina South Jetty Bobolinks--Yes on 9/19
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 14:13 pm
From: range.bayer AT gmail.com
 
Hi,
Mary Holbert reports that she went out at 7:30 AM this morning. She saw 2 female bobolinks just south of the #ed (61?) marker. They were up in the dunes just at the edge by the beach.


Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon.



Subject: Yaquina South Jetty Bobolinks on 9/19--No Reports as of 11:30 AM
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 13:32 pm
From: range.bayer AT gmail.com
 
Hi,
I have not yet seen any reports of the Bobolinks today (9/19) but it was foggy earlier this morning.
The latest sightings were for 6:40 PM on 9/18:

Bobolink (Dolichonyx oryzivorus) (1)

- Reported Sep 18, 2020 18:40 by Mike Wheeler

- Yaquina River--SE Jetty Way, Lincoln, Oregon

- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...

- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...

- Comments: "Yellow breast, boldly striped sides, pink bill. Originally found by Chuck Philo. Thank you Chuck!"



Bobolink (Dolichonyx oryzivorus) (1)

- Reported Sep 18, 2020 18:40 by Elizabeth Laver-Holencik

- Yaquina River--SE Jetty Way, Lincoln, Oregon

- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...

- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...

- Comments: "Yellow breast, boldly striped sides, pink bill. Originally found by Chuck Philo. Thank you Chuck!"Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon.



Subject: Local RBA: Stilt Sandpiper
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 9:29 am
From: celata AT pacifier.com
 
Bucky Barnett reports a Stilt Sandpiper at the slough next Shilo Inn in Warrenton. It shows on Google maps as Holbrook Slough----------Mike PattersonSomewhere on the roadSent via the Samsung Galaxy Tab E, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet



Subject: Local RBA: Stilt Sandpiper
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 9:29 am
From: celata AT pacifier.com
 
Bucky Barnett reports a Stilt Sandpiper at the slough next Shilo Inn in Warrenton. It shows on Google maps as Holbrook Slough----------Mike PattersonSomewhere on the roadSent via the Samsung Galaxy Tab E, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet



Subject: Washington County - Parasitic Jaeger
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 1:16 am
From: scotland.conor AT gmail.com
 
There was a parasitic jaegerat Hagg Lake around 7pm today. Seen from Area C.
Miserable phone-scoped photos were difficult in low light and rain:
https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...

We also thought we saw the immature Sabine's gull found earlier by Rick Bennett, but we did not get good enough looks to be certain.
Conor ScotlandNW Portland



Subject: Re: Avian die off in NM
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 1:01 am
From: freemanbecard AT gmail.com
 
Yes, likely starvation as mentioned. Here is a paper to ponder.
https://www.aba.org/the-data-b...
This sometimes can happen to a much lesser degree with early arrival Swallows during cold wet late-March weather here in the Willamette Valley.
Roger Freeman

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:39 PM larspernorgren <larspernorgren@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not sure if the links will work for everyone. 234 Violet-green Swallows weighed an average of 9.5g when normal is 14g. None had any fat and most showed muscle atrophy. It is not smoke inhalation, Covid-19 jumping to birds, or a completely novel pathogen. They starved to death. Albuquerque went from a record high of 96 to a 100 year record low the next day. Similar events, some far bigger, have occurred throughout the years. I'm not denying the tragedy, but it's completely natural. So sporadic (less than once a human generation)as to not be a part of our common consciousness . I was four years old when the Good Friday Earthquake struck. Our family went to Alsea Bay the next morning and the wildlife drowned by the tsunami was like nothing l've seen since. I always put earthquake insurance on my home owners' policy. Most Oregonians don't. Several credible sources tell me that when the big one hits l won't collect a dime because all the insurers will be broke.


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Subject: Re: Avian die off in NM
Date: Sat Sep 19 2020 1:01 am
From: freemanbecard AT gmail.com
 
Yes, likely starvation as mentioned. Here is a paper to ponder.
https://www.aba.org/the-data-b...
This sometimes can happen to a much lesser degree with early arrival Swallows during cold wet late-March weather here in the Willamette Valley.
Roger Freeman

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:39 PM larspernorgren <larspernorgren@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not sure if the links will work for everyone. 234 Violet-green Swallows weighed an average of 9.5g when normal is 14g. None had any fat and most showed muscle atrophy. It is not smoke inhalation, Covid-19 jumping to birds, or a completely novel pathogen. They starved to death. Albuquerque went from a record high of 96 to a 100 year record low the next day. Similar events, some far bigger, have occurred throughout the years. I'm not denying the tragedy, but it's completely natural. So sporadic (less than once a human generation)as to not be a part of our common consciousness . I was four years old when the Good Friday Earthquake struck. Our family went to Alsea Bay the next morning and the wildlife drowned by the tsunami was like nothing l've seen since. I always put earthquake insurance on my home owners' policy. Most Oregonians don't. Several credible sources tell me that when the big one hits l won't collect a dime because all the insurers will be broke.


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Subject: Re: Help in identifying waxwings
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 23:38 pm
From: tc AT empnet.com
 
Joy, to clarify, there are only two records OF BOHEMAIN WAXWINGS for west of the Cascades from September thru November. Records pick up in December and January, but there are only two records for February. Bohemians are regular, but not annual visitors in Central Oregon December thru February.
Sorry for the lack of clarity.
Tom



Subject: Re: Golden-crowned sparrow today
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 23:21 pm
From: paultsullivan AT onlinenw.com
 
Today I saw my first-of-the-fall Golden-crowned Sparrows in my backyard in
McMinnville. One adult and two young.

Paul Sullivan
-------------------------
[obol] Golden-crowned sparrow today
From: "Maeve and Dick"
To:
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:31:10 -0700
Hi,

WejustheardandsawourfirstGolden-crownedsparrowtoday!

Itwascallingaboveabigrosebushwheretheflockusuallyhangsoutin
thewinter.

MaeveandDick

SWHills,Eugene


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Subject: Re: Golden-crowned sparrow today
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 23:21 pm
From: paultsullivan AT onlinenw.com
 
Today I saw my first-of-the-fall Golden-crowned Sparrows in my backyard in
McMinnville. One adult and two young.

Paul Sullivan
-------------------------
[obol] Golden-crowned sparrow today
From: "Maeve and Dick"
To:
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:31:10 -0700
Hi,

WejustheardandsawourfirstGolden-crownedsparrowtoday!

Itwascallingaboveabigrosebushwheretheflockusuallyhangsoutin
thewinter.

MaeveandDick

SWHills,Eugene


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Subject: Re: Help in identifying waxwings
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 23:09 pm
From: tc AT empnet.com
 
These are immature Cedar Waxwings, Joy.  Virtually all waxwings before
November will be Cedar's outside of the NE part of the state. There are
only two records for west of the Cascades from September thru November.
Records pick up in December and January, but there are only two records for
February. Bohemians are regular, but not annual visitors in Central Oregon
December thru February.



Tom Crabtree, Bend



From: obol-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:obol-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
Of joy shreyer (Redacted sender "sjoygene" for DMARC)
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM
To: obol@freelists.org
Cc: Shreyer Gene & Joy
Subject: [obol] Help in identifying waxwings



Several of these birds flew into my yard and birdbath yesterday and I am
wondering if they are juvenile cedar waxwings?. My book does not show

white all around the eye like these birds have. I live in Silverton, OR.



Subject: Help in identifying waxwings
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 23:00 pm
From: dmarc-noreply AT freelists.org
 
Several of these birds flew into my yard and birdbath yesterday and I am wondering if they are juvenile cedar waxwings?. My  book does not show
white all around the eye like these birds have. I live in Silverton, OR.



Subject: Avian die off in NM
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 22:39 pm
From: larspernorgren AT gmail.com
 
I'm not sure if the links will work for everyone. 234 Violet-green Swallows weighed an average of 9.5g when normal is 14g. None had any fat and most showed muscle atrophy. It is not smoke inhalation, Covid-19 jumping to birds, or a completely novel pathogen. They starved to death. Albuquerque went from a record high of 96 to a 100 year record low the next day. Similar events, some far bigger, have occurred throughout the years. I'm not denying the tragedy, but it's completely natural. So sporadic (less than once a human generation)as to not be a part of our common consciousness . I was four years old when the Good Friday Earthquake struck. Our family went to Alsea Bay the next morning and the wildlife drowned by the tsunami was like nothing l've seen since. I always put earthquake insurance on my home owners' policy. Most Oregonians don't. Several credible sources tell me that when the big one hits l won't collect a dime because all the insurers will be broke.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



Subject: *Re: Re: 2 Bobolinks at Yaquina South Jetty/Beach on 9/18 (Lincoln Co.)
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 22:37 pm
From: range.bayer AT gmail.com
 
Hi,
Since Steve's report below, there have been several others, with latest at 5:30 PM:
Bobolink (Dolichonyx oryzivorus) (2)

- Reported Sep 18, 2020 14:17 by Laura Paulson

- Yaquina River--South Jetty, Lincoln, Oregon

- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...

- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...

- Comments: "Beautiful female types, warm yellow tones, striped head. Found earlier by Chuck Philo. I had no camera but many cameras were clicking."
Bobolink (Dolichonyx oryzivorus) (2)

- Reported Sep 18, 2020 15:00 by Richard Hallowell

- South Beach, Lincoln, Oregon

- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...

- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...

- Comments: "As first seen by Chuck Philo and others; on top of the grass mound just west of Sign "61""
Bobolink (Dolichonyx oryzivorus) (2)

- Reported Sep 18, 2020 14:26 by Annika Andersson

- Yaquina River--South Jetty, Lincoln, Oregon

- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...

- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...

- Media: 5 Photos

- Comments: "Awesome find by Chuck P. today! Birds were larger than Savannah Sparrows, quite yellow with dark streaks on flanks and stripes on head. See photos. Heard muppet/robot-like "pink" calls in brief flights."

Bobolink (Dolichonyx oryzivorus) (1)
- Reported Sep 18, 2020 17:30 by Annika Andersson
- Yaquina River--South Jetty, Lincoln, Oregon
- Map:http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...
- Checklist:https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...
- Comments: "Spotted in same area as earlier this afternoon, at the base of the S Jetty in dunes near the yellow 61 marker. Photo."Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 3:37 PM Stephen Holzman <steveholzman2@gmail.com> wrote:
Here are our photos from today: https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...
Coincidentally, the species is the ABC's Bird of the Week:https://abcbirds.salsalabs.org...
Fun article here about how early naturalists thought the male and female were from two different specieshttps://www.birdpop.org/docs/p...

Previous eBird sightings in Lincoln CountyMatt Hunter 1984:https://ebird.org/checklist/S3... Gillson 1975:https://ebird.org/checklist/S9... sure there are some non-eBird sightings also)
Steve & Rachel HolzmanSouth Beach, OR
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:47 PM Andy Thomas <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:

Or perhaps mature male in nonbreeding plumage?







On Friday, September 18, 2020, 2:09:08 PM PDT, Range Bayer <range.bayer@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi,
At noon today (9/18), Chuck Philo saw and photographed 2 young or female Bobolinks where the South Jetty Road meets the beach. They flew up the beach into the beach grass.Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon.



Subject: Klamath ELEGANT TERN & Palm Warbler
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 18:12 pm
From: namitzr AT hotmail.com
 
There was a PALM WARBLER at Hagelstein County Park along Hwy 97 off Upper Klamath Lake.
Slightly south, at a locally known spot as Hanks Marsh, there was an ELEGANT TERN roosting with Caspian Terns. One of the very few inland sightings of this species!!!!

Good birding,
Russ Namitz

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Subject: Re: 2 Bobolinks at Yaquina South Jetty/Beach on 9/18 (Lincoln Co.)
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 17:38 pm
From: steveholzman2 AT gmail.com
 
Here are our photos from today: https://ebird.org/checklist/S7...
Coincidentally, the species is the ABC's Bird of the Week:https://abcbirds.salsalabs.org...
Fun article here about how early naturalists thought the male and female were from two different specieshttps://www.birdpop.org/docs/p...

Previous eBird sightings in Lincoln CountyMatt Hunter 1984:https://ebird.org/checklist/S3... Gillson 1975:https://ebird.org/checklist/S9... sure there are some non-eBird sightings also)
Steve & Rachel HolzmanSouth Beach, OR
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:47 PM Andy Thomas <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:

Or perhaps mature male in nonbreeding plumage?







On Friday, September 18, 2020, 2:09:08 PM PDT, Range Bayer <range.bayer@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi,
At noon today (9/18), Chuck Philo saw and photographed 2 young or female Bobolinks where the South Jetty Road meets the beach. They flew up the beach into the beach grass.Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon.



Subject: Golden-crowned sparrow today
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 17:31 pm
From: maeveanddick AT q.com
 
Hi,
We just heard and saw our first Golden-crowned sparrow today!
It was calling above a big rose bush where the flock usually hangs out in the winter.
Maeve and Dick
SW Hills, Eugene



Subject: Re: 2 Bobolinks at Yaquina South Jetty/Beach on 9/18 (Lincoln Co.)
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 16:46 pm
From: dmarc-noreply AT freelists.org
 
Or perhaps mature male in nonbreeding plumage?

On Friday, September 18, 2020, 2:09:08 PM PDT, Range Bayer wrote:

Hi,
At noon today (9/18), Chuck Philo saw and photographed 2 young or female Bobolinks where the South Jetty Road meets the beach. They flew up the beach into the beach grass.
Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon.



Subject: Buff-breasted Sandpiper
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 16:41 pm
From: avocetra AT gmail.com
 
First found by Gary Fugle on Sept 16 still present in Manzanita Beach today (9/18) in mixed wader flock near the end of North Ave. Photographed the last two days (eBird). Frequently flushed by walkers and dogs.
Jules Evens

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Subject: 2 Bobolinks at Yaquina South Jetty/Beach on 9/18 (Lincoln Co.)
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 16:09 pm
From: range.bayer AT gmail.com
 
Hi,
At noon today (9/18), Chuck Philo saw and photographed 2 young or female Bobolinks where the South Jetty Road meets the beach. They flew up the beach into the beach grass.Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon.



Subject: Sabine’s Gull At HaggLk
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 14:38 pm
From: rickbennett67 AT gmail.com
 
The full flew and has not been relocated in last 45 min. Rick Bennett

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Subject: Chestnut-sided Warbler -- Malheur HQ
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 10:58 am
From: aaron.beerman AT gmail.com
 
There is a first winter Chestnut-sided Warber at HQ now. I have lost track of it after it moved south towards the gift shop. Very birdy this morning here.
Aaron B



Subject: Re: 2020-2021 Oregon CBC dates?
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 10:58 am
From: caryn.stoess AT gmail.com
 
Hi David,
For the last several years, OBA has compiled a CBC list and posted it on the OBA website. I will start a new list now. CBC organizers, please send me your CBC date, contact information, and other recruiting/meet up information for potential participants. Thanks!

Caryn StoessOBA website manager

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:54 PM David Bailey <davidcbaileyoregon@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there yet a list, or is somebody compiling a list of Oregon Christmas Bird Count dates for the 2020-2021 CBC period?
Thanks...and now you may continue finding migrant mega-rares and rares and lovely expecteds at your favorite patches during the awesome late-summer and fall migratory period...
David C. BaileySeaside, Oregon



Subject: Re: YB Flycatcher vs. PS flycatcher, not the first?
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 8:08 am
From: sbkornfeld AT msn.com
 
The gap seems to be a useful field mark to help with the separation of PS flycatcher from YB flycatcher because the gap in PS flycatcher is unusually small compared to other Empids. The larger gap in this Brothers photo could help
eliminate PS flycatcher, but does it exclude others in the genus. If these photos do not represent one of the yellow throated Empids like PS or YB, then perhaps the gap is less relevant as a field mark

So, across the genus, I am curios how useful paying attention to the gap is?


Thanks

Steve Kornfeld
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From: Robert O'Brien

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 5:28 AM

To: obol

Subject: [obol] YB Flycatcher vs. PS flycatcher, not the first?




Noah's quiz was a humbling experience. But then, I expected to be humbled.



A little not-so-ancient history:



Alan Contreras posted several photos of a mystery empidonax flycatcher back in Oct 2018.
I opined in my non-expert way that it looked like a Yellow-bellied. I've never heard of the conclusions on this Empid, if any.





I've taken the liberty of attaching one of Alan's photos from the above url along with the secondary-gap photos discussed lately.






As to the comparison photo, in addition to the 'gap' the YB appears to have a significantly longer primary extension (the extension of the primaries



on to or past the rump/tail. This is another feature used in separating various Empidonax as well as other birds.






Alan's photos appear to show both the longer 'gap' and the longer primary projection. The 'teardrop' eye ring seems a little intermediate.






Perhaps Alan's photos actually depict Oregon's First YB Flycatcher? (disclaimer, Least Flycatcher is not considered here).






You be the judge.






Bob OBrien Carver OR



Subject: YB Flycatcher vs. PS flycatcher, not the first?
Date: Fri Sep 18 2020 7:28 am
From: baro AT pdx.edu
 
Noah's quiz was a humbling experience.  But then, I expected to be humbled.
A little not-so-ancient history:
Alan Contreras posted several photos of a mystery empidonax flycatcher back
in Oct 2018. https://www.freelists.org/post...
I opined in my non-expert way that it looked like a Yellow-bellied. I've
never heard of the conclusions on this Empid, if any.

I've taken the liberty of attaching one of Alan's photos from the above
url along with the secondary-gap photos discussed lately.
https://www.researchgate.net/f...

As to the comparison photo, in addition to the 'gap' the YB appears to have
a significantly longer primary extension (the extension of the primaries
on to or past the rump/tail. This is another feature used in separating
various Empidonax as well as other birds.

Alan's photos appear to show both the longer 'gap' and the longer primary
projection. The 'teardrop' eye ring seems a little intermediate.

Perhaps Alan's photos actually depict Oregon's First YB Flycatcher?
(disclaimer, Least Flycatcher is not considered here).

You be the judge.

Bob OBrien Carver OR



Subject: 2020-2021 Oregon CBC dates?
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 22:54 pm
From: davidcbaileyoregon AT gmail.com
 
Is there yet a list, or is somebody compiling a list of Oregon Christmas Bird Count dates for the 2020-2021 CBC period?
Thanks...and now you may continue finding migrant mega-rares and rares and lovely expecteds at your favorite patches during the awesome late-summer and fall migratory period...
David C. BaileySeaside, Oregon



Subject: confined by my age and our smoke
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 20:01 pm
From: atowhee AT gmail.com
 
We are gradually gettingto see manyof the commonmigrants through Salem:last week junco, Hermit Warbler, then orange-crown, song sparrows (maybe a local), Willow Fly and then two pewees at once, white-crowns and today our first Fox Sparrow. Long may he linger. Still no yellow rump or Townsend's..not outside to listen for geese.

https://atowhee.blog/2020/09/1...
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Harry Fullerauthor of: San Francisco's Natural History: Sand Dunes to Streetcars:https://ecowise.wordpress.com/...
author of Great Gray Owls of CA-OR-WA: https://ecowise.wordpress.com/... of Freeway Birding: freewaybirding.com
birding website: http://www.towhee.net
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Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 16:25 pm
From: hhactitis AT gmail.com
 
8/10, mostly going by secondary gap and eye-ring. Some of those pics are tough!
Nice quiz, Noah - thanks!
Hendrik
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:05 PM Noah Strycker <noah.strycker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.


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Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 16:21 pm
From: paultsullivan AT onlinenw.com
 
Noah,

Your photo quiz drew more participants than my "What comes after.." quiz.
Folks should try that.

I studied Bob Archer's reference paper and Sibley's Second Edition before
trying your quiz.
I got 6/10 on my first pass, 7/10 on my second pass. I probably reversed
some of the ones I got right the first time.

Thanks,

Paul Sullivan

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[obol] A photo quiz
From: Noah Strycker
To: OBOL Oregon Birders Online
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:04:40 -0400
Hibirders,

Hereare10pictures,inrandomorder.Eachoneshowseithera
Pacific-slopeFlycatcheroraYellow-belliedFlycatcher(allinfall,and
instateswhereonlyonespeciesoccurs).

CanyouconfidentlyIDthemall?Youshouldget50%byblindguessing,
anyway;)

http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happyempiding,
Noah


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Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 16:10 pm
From: rabican1 AT gmail.com
 
Noah needed to add an option of "It moved before I could get a good look"
Bob Archer
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 2:06 PM Craig Miller <gismiller@gmail.com> wrote:
Ditto - 7/10 based on the secondary gap.
Craig
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:59 PM Zia Fukuda <zialeefukuda@gmail.com> wrote:
I went solely off the "secondary gap" and got 7/10!
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Noah Strycker <noah.strycker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 16:06 pm
From: gismiller AT gmail.com
 
Ditto - 7/10 based on the secondary gap.
Craig
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:59 PM Zia Fukuda <zialeefukuda@gmail.com> wrote:
I went solely off the "secondary gap" and got 7/10!
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Noah Strycker <noah.strycker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 15:59 pm
From: zialeefukuda AT gmail.com
 
I went solely off the "secondary gap" and got 7/10!
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Noah Strycker <noah.strycker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 15:59 pm
From: zialeefukuda AT gmail.com
 
I went solely off the "secondary gap" and got 7/10!
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Noah Strycker <noah.strycker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 15:43 pm
From: shovzan AT gmail.com
 
6/10! My strategy for this stunning success? See if you can learn anything within the quiz. In this case, look at the bill. Otherwise, I'm sure I would have gotten 3/10.
Pamela Johnston
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Noah Strycker <noah.strycker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 15:14 pm
From: rabican1 AT gmail.com
 
5/10. So far coin flip is keeping pace..will go back tonight and see if I get the same score.
Bob Archer
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:34 PM Andy Thomas <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:

6/10







On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 12:05:29 PM PDT, Noah Strycker <noah.strycker@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: Re: 9/17 Fields birds
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 14:59 pm
From: jackdaynes AT gmail.com
 
Jake, his friends and his dad provided me with fond memories when I met them in June of 2015. I wrote in my blog at the time:
https://shadetreeimaging.com/m...

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:58 AM larspernorgren <larspernorgren@gmail.com> wrote:
And stay in business. All over the industrial world the presence of retail food and gasoline service in the hinterland is becoming a luxury.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56@gmail.com> Date: 9/17/20 11:05 AM (GMT-08:00) To: avitours@aol.com Cc: obol@freelists.org Subject: [obol] Re: 9/17 Fields birds
I hope all of you are shopping at Fields. It really matters. Jake and Jayde, the newish owners, are pro-birder and we want them to stay that way.



Alan Contrerasacontrer56@gmail.comEugene, Oregon
www.alanlcontreras.com






On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:03 AM, (Redacted sender "avitours" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
Nolan Clements & I drove to Fields, OR. early this morning. At 7:30 a.m. I had a brief look at a yellowish empid. No one else has reported seeing the Yellow-bellied Flycatcher. Nolan did find, and photograph a LE CONTE'S SPARROW around 8:30 a.m. near the stone building outside the oasis. Aaron Beeman apparently just refound it. I found an adult, light-morph BROAD-WINGED HAWK that briefly landed in the oasis, and quickly flew out, and was not relocated. Very birdy, and birdery. Good birding, Trent Bray & Nolan Clements, La Grande, OR


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Wildlife Photography with
Emphasis on Birds858-442-1907Jack DaynesBased in San Diego County, California
==================================I do not chase birds as much as I chase places.I can enjoy the birds I meet, if I enjoy the place I meet them.==================================
Find me at the intersection of Anywhere and Everywherein North America.
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Subject: Re: 9/17 Fields birds
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 14:59 pm
From: jackdaynes AT gmail.com
 
Jake, his friends and his dad provided me with fond memories when I met them in June of 2015. I wrote in my blog at the time:
https://shadetreeimaging.com/m...

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:58 AM larspernorgren <larspernorgren@gmail.com> wrote:
And stay in business. All over the industrial world the presence of retail food and gasoline service in the hinterland is becoming a luxury.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56@gmail.com> Date: 9/17/20 11:05 AM (GMT-08:00) To: avitours@aol.com Cc: obol@freelists.org Subject: [obol] Re: 9/17 Fields birds
I hope all of you are shopping at Fields. It really matters. Jake and Jayde, the newish owners, are pro-birder and we want them to stay that way.



Alan Contrerasacontrer56@gmail.comEugene, Oregon
www.alanlcontreras.com






On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:03 AM, (Redacted sender "avitours" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
Nolan Clements & I drove to Fields, OR. early this morning. At 7:30 a.m. I had a brief look at a yellowish empid. No one else has reported seeing the Yellow-bellied Flycatcher. Nolan did find, and photograph a LE CONTE'S SPARROW around 8:30 a.m. near the stone building outside the oasis. Aaron Beeman apparently just refound it. I found an adult, light-morph BROAD-WINGED HAWK that briefly landed in the oasis, and quickly flew out, and was not relocated. Very birdy, and birdery. Good birding, Trent Bray & Nolan Clements, La Grande, OR


--
--
-- Jack --
==================================
<https://shadeTreeImaging.com/&...
Wildlife Photography with
Emphasis on Birds858-442-1907Jack DaynesBased in San Diego County, California
==================================I do not chase birds as much as I chase places.I can enjoy the birds I meet, if I enjoy the place I meet them.==================================
Find me at the intersection of Anywhere and Everywherein North America.
==================================https://shadetreeimaging.com/c...
==================================



Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 14:34 pm
From: dmarc-noreply AT freelists.org
 
6/10

On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 12:05:29 PM PDT, Noah Strycker wrote:

Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: Re: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 14:28 pm
From: acontrer56 AT gmail.com
 
Great idea, Noah. I got four of them right, time to look at peeps.

Alan Contrerasacontrer56@gmail.comEugene, Oregon
www.alanlcontreras.com




On Sep 17, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Noah Strycker <noah.strycker@gmail.com> wrote:Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: A photo quiz
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 14:05 pm
From: noah.strycker AT gmail.com
 
Hi birders,
Here are 10 pictures, in random order. Each one shows either a Pacific-slope Flycatcher or a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher (all in fall, and in states where only one species occurs).
Can you confidently ID them all? You should get 50% by blind guessing, anyway ;)
http://www.quiz-maker.com/QTJL...

Happy empiding,Noah
PS - The Fields bird sure looks like a Yellow-bellied to me.



Subject: Re: 9/17 Fields birds
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 13:58 pm
From: larspernorgren AT gmail.com
 
And stay in business. All over the industrial world the presence of retail food and gasoline service in the hinterland is becoming a luxury.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Alan Contreras Date: 9/17/20 11:05 AM (GMT-08:00) To: avitours@aol.com Cc: obol@freelists.org Subject: [obol] Re: 9/17 Fields birds I hope all of you are shopping at Fields. It really matters. Jake and Jayde, the newish owners, are pro-birder and we want them to stay that way.
Alan Contrerasacontrer56@gmail.comEugene, Oregonwww.alanlcontreras.com

On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:03 AM, (Redacted sender "avitours" for DMARC) wrote:Nolan Clements & I drove to Fields, OR. early this morning. At 7:30 a.m. I had a brief look at a yellowish empid. No one else has reported seeing the Yellow-bellied Flycatcher. Nolan did find, and photograph a LE CONTE'S SPARROW around 8:30 a.m. near the stone building outside the oasis. Aaron Beeman apparently just refound it. I found an adult, light-morph BROAD-WINGED HAWK that briefly landed in the oasis, and quickly flew out, and was not relocated. Very birdy, and birdery. Good birding, Trent Bray & Nolan Clements, La Grande, OR



Subject: Mt. Tabor Black-crowned Night-heron
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 13:08 pm
From: christopher.hinkle2 AT gmail.com
 
Hi all,
As others have noted, it has been a great September for NFCs (nocturnal flight calls), perhaps because of the smoke. This morning from 5:10-5:50 AM I listened for NFCs at the edge of Mt. Tabor and heard 10-20 Swainson's Thrush calls per minute. Also several Savannah Sparrows, some unidentified warblers (no yellows), a local duetting pair of Barred Owls and a Black-crowned Night-heron which is a first park record. Full list in eBird.
Good birding,
Chris Hinkle



Subject: Re: 9/17 Fields birds
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 13:06 pm
From: acontrer56 AT gmail.com
 
I hope all of you are shopping at Fields. It really matters. Jake and Jayde, the newish owners, are pro-birder and we want them to stay that way.

Alan Contrerasacontrer56@gmail.comEugene, Oregon
www.alanlcontreras.com




On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:03 AM, (Redacted sender "avitours" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:Nolan Clements & I drove to Fields, OR. early this morning. At 7:30 a.m. I had a brief look at a yellowish empid. No one else has reported seeing the Yellow-bellied Flycatcher. Nolan did find, and photograph a LE CONTE'S SPARROW around 8:30 a.m. near the stone building outside the oasis. Aaron Beeman apparently just refound it. I found an adult, light-morph BROAD-WINGED HAWK that briefly landed in the oasis, and quickly flew out, and was not relocated. Very birdy, and birdery. Good birding, Trent Bray & Nolan Clements, La Grande, OR



Subject: Re: 9/17 Fields birds
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 13:03 pm
From: dmarc-noreply AT freelists.org
 
Nolan Clements & I drove to Fields, OR. early this morning. At 7:30 a.m. I had a brief look at a yellowish empid. No one else has reported seeing the Yellow-bellied Flycatcher. Nolan did find, and photograph a LE CONTE'S SPARROW around 8:30 a.m. near the stone building outside the oasis. Aaron Beeman apparently just refound it. I found an adult, light-morph BROAD-WINGED HAWK that briefly landed in the oasis, and quickly flew out, and was not relocated. Very birdy, and birdery. Good birding, Trent Bray & Nolan Clements, La Grande, OR



Subject: Re: Nocturnal Flight Counts - McMinnville backyard
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 12:32 pm
From: philliplc AT charter.net
 
Should add that at this time just before daylight numbersmay be dropping and compressing at low elevation andthey may be contact calling more frequently as theyprepare to settle for the day. That could be why I heard sucha high density of calls today and on the 14th at about thesame time. Moving experience certainly.
Phil


@charter.net>>Steady 100+ calls per minute again 5:50-6:10 this morninghere in fog in Lincoln City. This is 1/4 mile from the beach100 ft elevation.
Phil@charter.net>



Subject: YTWA yesterday
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 12:30 pm
From: tim.spanish.guide AT gmail.com
 
I read a post that posited that the Springfield Yellow-throated Warbler had moved on. I believe that Russ Namitz saw it yesterday (Wednesday) morning, in the park I think, not at the feeder. So it was seen later than Monday. That is not to say it is still there, of course.Good luck if people are still chasing!Tim



Subject: Yellow-bellied vs Western Flycatchers
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 11:50 am
From: rabican1 AT gmail.com
 
Hi:
Good point on the gap between wing bar and secondary edges. It would also help to have in focus photos of primaries, this paper is saved in my folder on empids:
https://www.birdpop.org/docs/p...


Bob Archer



Subject: Re: Nocturnal Flight Counts - McMinnville backyard
Date: Thu Sep 17 2020 11:17 am
From: philliplc AT charter.net
 
Steady 100+ calls per minute again 5:50-6:10 this morninghere in fog in Lincoln City. This is 1/4 mile from the beach100 ft elevation.
Phil


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