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12 Jun: @ 01:43:39 
Re: CA Quail Attacks Large Hawk (Swainson's ?) [rattlesnake4873]
11 Jun: @ 21:16:10 
CA Quail Attacks Large Hawk (Swainson's ?) [ftcrase via groups.io]
09 Jun: @ 20:18:22 
Dry Lakes - going? [Jon Barnett]
03 Jun: @ 19:36:23 
Dry lake & nearby ponds [Robert Kiernan]
03 Jun: @ 19:36:23 
Dry lake & nearby ponds [Robert Kiernan]
02 Jun: @ 22:40:02 
White Pelicans and a C. Loon [bike4birds]
01 Jun: @ 19:02:00 
Re: eBird report of Mississippi Kite from last night in Eagle (Ada Co) [Jon Barnett]
01 Jun: @ 18:56:22 
eBird report of Mississippi Kite from last night in Eagle (Ada Co) [Jay Carlisle via groups.io]
01 Jun: @ 18:56:22 
eBird report of Mississippi Kite from last night in Eagle (Ada Co) [Jay Carlisle via groups.io]
01 Jun: @ 14:41:21 
Re: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead [Scott Tuthill]
01 Jun: @ 04:32:39 
Re: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead [Jason Talbot via groups.io]
01 Jun: @ 03:25:45 
Re: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead [Jason Talbot via groups.io]
01 Jun: @ 03:25:45 
Re: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead [Jason Talbot via groups.io]
01 Jun: @ 03:13:32 
Re: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead [Jason Talbot via groups.io]
01 Jun: @ 03:13:32 
Re: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead [Jason Talbot via groups.io]
31 May: @ 16:40:02 
Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead [Scott Tuthill]
30 May: @ 16:48:43 
Re: N Catbird [lcarrigan_55 via groups.io]
30 May: @ 11:29:10 
Re: N Catbird [cheryl huizinga]
30 May: @ 00:12:07 
Re: N Catbird [Elizabeth Medes]
29 May: @ 22:26:07 
Re: N Catbird [Bill Moore]
29 May: @ 22:11:19 
Re: N Catbird [lcarrigan_55 via groups.io]
29 May: @ 21:52:12 
N Catbird [lcarrigan_55 via groups.io]
28 May: @ 12:00:01 
Re: Jack,s creek [Cliff Weisse]
28 May: @ 03:23:31 
Jack,s creek [Robert Kiernan]
28 May: @ 03:23:31 
Jack,s creek [Robert Kiernan]
25 May: @ 19:00:13 
Re: Tame Red Crossbill's [Balaeniceps rex]
25 May: @ 17:27:01 
Re: Tame Red Crossbill's [Heidi Ware Carlisle]
25 May: @ 17:12:45 
Tame Red Crossbill's [Dave & Brenda Pace]
23 May: @ 18:47:10 
2 New Arrivals [lcarrigan_55 via groups.io]
23 May: @ 13:35:55 
Re: Ponds [Aidan Lorenz]
23 May: @ 01:48:45 
Snowy Plovers / Indian Creek Reservoir [Cliff Weisse]
23 May: @ 01:48:45 
Snowy Plovers / Indian Creek Reservoir [Cliff Weisse]
22 May: @ 22:40:37 
Re: Rose-breasted Grosbeak [lcarrigan_55 via groups.io]
22 May: @ 05:03:40 
Re: Rose-breasted Grosbeak [bike4birds]
22 May: @ 02:55:37 
Re: Rose-breasted Grosbeak [Diann Stone]
21 May: @ 15:13:45 
Re: Rose-breasted Grosbeak [forsmann]
21 May: @ 15:12:55 
Re: Rose-breasted Grosbeak [forsmann]
21 May: @ 15:10:04 
Rose-breasted Grosbeak [lcarrigan_55 via groups.io]
17 May: @ 19:34:53 
Dry lake [Robert Kiernan]
17 May: @ 19:34:53 
Dry lake [Robert Kiernan]
17 May: @ 14:19:13 
Re: Lazuli Buntings [Kerry Fitzharris]
17 May: @ 14:17:45 
Re: Lazuli Buntings [billiet49 via groups.io]
17 May: @ 03:09:11 
New arrivals [bike4birds]
17 May: @ 00:22:05 
Re: Lazuli Buntings [Kevin Merrell]
16 May: @ 23:13:02 
Re: Lazuli Buntings [Diann Stone]
16 May: @ 16:31:51 
Re: Lazuli Buntings [Ruth Shea]
15 May: @ 16:02:46 
Re: Black-Throated Sparrow at Dedication Point [Jon Barnett]
15 May: @ 12:22:06 
Warbler! [lcarrigan_55 via groups.io]
15 May: @ 02:22:21 
Re: Black-Throated Sparrow at Dedication Point [akswanson]
15 May: @ 01:01:06 
Re: Black-Throated Sparrow at Dedication Point [Ken Miracle via groups.io]





Subject: CA Quail Attacks Large Hawk (Swainson's ?)
Date: Sat Jun 12 2021 1:43 am
From: Rattlesnake4873 AT gmail.com
 
Great story. There is no end to what a parent will do to protect offspring,
me included.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 3:16 PM ftcrase via groups.io wrote:

> I have been in this world a long time and much of that time spent outdoors
> from growing up in a rural to area, to being a working biologist, and being
> an avid fisherman and hunter since I was 6 years old. Sometimes I get to
> thinking that I have seen everything, but Nature just keeps on surprising
> me. Yesterday I was eating dinner at a friend’s house and she spotted a
> pair of CA quail walking up the edge of an irrigation lateral that passes
> by about 30 feet from the dinette window. She said that they had babies and
> seemed to be quite exposed, and I took a pair binoculars to look at them
> and just as I got them in view “BAM” a large hawk landed right in the
> middle of them. I think that it was a dark phase Swainson’s but things
> started happening so quickly that I didn’t time to be sure. Quail started
> running in all different directions and the hawk flew up the ditch and
> disappeared behind some bushes and trees followed about a second later by
> the male quail. The female promptly started to gather her brood and head
> back down the canal. The male didn’t show up for a little while and I
> figured that he was providing fine dining to the hawk but the little squirt
> showed up and they all headed into the grass and brush on the other side
> of the ditch. ????
>
>
>
> I am still amazed at we watched but Nature just keeps providing new
> entertainment after all these years. I even got a new life lister this
> Spring ( which is getting rarer and rarer for me) in Arizona during my
> annual trip down there to see my kids and grandkids – a Northern Jacana.
> ????
>
>
>
> Fred Crase
>
> New Plymouth
>
>
>
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Subject: CA Quail Attacks Large Hawk (Swainson's ?)
Date: Fri Jun 11 2021 21:16 pm
From: ftcrase=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
I have been in this world a long time and much of that time spent outdoors from growing up in a rural to area, to being a working biologist, and being an avid fisherman and hunter since I was 6 years old. Sometimes I get to thinking that I have seen everything, but Nature just keeps on surprising me. Yesterday I was eating dinner at a friend’s house and she spotted a pair of CA quail walking up the edge of an irrigation lateral that passes by about 30 feet from the dinette window. She said that they had babies and seemed to be quite exposed, and I took a pair binoculars to look at them and just as I got them in view “BAM” a large hawk landed right in the middle of them. I think that it was a dark phase Swainson’s but things started happening so quickly that I didn’t time to be sure. Quail started running in all different directions and the hawk flew up the ditch and disappeared behind some bushes and trees followed about a second later by the male quail. The female promptly started to gather her brood and head back down the canal. The male didn’t show up for a little while and I figured that he was providing fine dining to the hawk but the little squirt showed up and they all headed into the grass and brush on the  other side of the ditch. ????

I am still amazed at we watched but Nature just keeps providing new entertainment after all these years. I even got a new life lister this Spring ( which is getting rarer and rarer for me) in Arizona during my annual trip down there to see my kids and grandkids – a Northern Jacana. ????

Fred Crase
New Plymouth

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Subject: Dry Lakes - going?
Date: Wed Jun 9 2021 20:18 pm
From: jrb4jc AT hotmail.com
 
Hi  I see that Snowy Plovers are still being reported, and the Pectoral Sandpiper was still mentioned the other day.
I drove out to Dry Lakes for the first time in years, last Sunday afternoon, hoping that with my high-powered camera lens (I dont have a decent scope) and binocs, I might be able to see something, but it was impossible at that distance from the road.

So, if anyone plans to head out there with a high-powered scope, I would sure appreciate knowing, and maybe I can coordinate another drive out there. ThanksJon Barnett, 208-869-5164

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Subject: Dry lake & nearby ponds
Date: Thu Jun 3 2021 19:36 pm
From: photobirder AT gmail.com
 
Gadwalls. N.shov. canvas back  ruddy cinn.teals  phalaropes. Blk neck
stilts. Avocets spotted peeps ca.gulls yellow hd.blk.bird pond on
Dearborn 100 ft.past s.end burrowing owl


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Subject: Dry lake & nearby ponds
Date: Thu Jun 3 2021 19:36 pm
From: photobirder AT gmail.com
 
Gadwalls. N.shov. canvas back  ruddy cinn.teals  phalaropes. Blk neck
stilts. Avocets spotted peeps ca.gulls yellow hd.blk.bird pond on
Dearborn 100 ft.past s.end burrowing owl


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Subject: White Pelicans and a C. Loon
Date: Wed Jun 2 2021 22:40 pm
From: tmccabe9 AT cableone.net
 
Not sure if the word has gotten around to everyone that a Common Loon has
been hanging around at a pond in Garden City. The pond is on the north side
of the river and just west of Glenwood. In fact, you can see the pond from
the sidewalk of Glenwood. I've seen it the last 3 days on my bike rides. I
was told about it by a couple of different people, but I haven't seen any
postings.

So, on the way home today, with 39 species in my head, I stopped at Esther
Simplot Park to check out some RB Gulls. (If you squint hard enough, you can
maybe make them into California Gulls, but not today.) Anyway, as I was
about to tuck my binos away, something white in the sky caught my attention.
It turned out to be a flock of circling White Pelicans. They were pretty
high up so it's hard to say how far down river they were from me, but they
may have been as close as Veterans Pond. I tried to count them, but they
kept banking and each time they banked, they shifted position. My best guess
would 20+ birds. A nice way to finish my ride and get 40 species to boot. A
Swainson's Hawk on the neighborhood nest made it 41.

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Subject: eBird report of Mississippi Kite from last night in Eagle (Ada Co)
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 19:02 pm
From: jrb4jc AT hotmail.com
 
Hi Jay!  I looked at that earlier when it popped up  with only a brief sighting and no binocs, it sure sounded like a Coopers Hawk to me for whatever its worth

Since Im sending an email anyway, might as well share a recent photo from my Bird Gallery FB site; I took an unexpected last-minute trip to Colombia, and this Green-and-Black Fruiteater surprised me on a trail.
What a beautiful bird when seen up close!

Everyone have a marvelous Junebest, Jonathan

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From: Jay Carlisle via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 12:56 PM
To: IBLE
Subject: [IBLE] eBird report of Mississippi Kite from last night in Eagle (Ada Co)

For those not receiving eBird rarity alerts, here's an intriguing report ... and he's right that late spring is the right time for "spring overshoot" vagrancy in this species. In my experience, out of range kites in spring tend to be here 1 minute, and gone the next (or pretty soon anyway :-) but if anyone's in the area, could be worth a look.

Jay

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Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 1:15:39 AM MDT
Subject: [eBird Alert] Idaho Rare Bird Alert

*** Species Summary:

Mississippi Kite (1 Ada)

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Thank you for subscribing to the Idaho Rare Bird Alert.The report below shows observations of rare birds in Idaho. View or unsubscribe to this alert at https://ebird.org/alert/summar...
NOTE: all sightings are UNCONFIRMED unless indicated.

eBird encourages our users to bird safely, responsibly, and mindfully. Please follow the recommendations of your local health authorities and respect any active travel restrictions in your area. For more information visit: https://ebird.org/news/please-...

Mississippi Kite (Ictinia mississippiensis) (1)
- Reported May 31, 2021 19:30 by Kurt Radamaker
- Reid Merrill Park, Ada, Idaho
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S8...
- Comments: "Sub adult.

My wife and I are avid birders visiting family in star Idaho from Scottsdale AZ for Memorial weekend. While eating dinner at coynes restaurant near reid merrill park, we had an unmistakable view of a miki. Size of white tailed kite, long tapered wings with dark primaries, dark underwing, chest, breast and belly marked with horizontal reddish streaks, longish dark tail. Not overall black and white as in white-tailed kite. The sighting was brief and without binoculars, but the bird was fairly close 25ft? It flew low over the tree tops.

With a lack of photos and the poor circumstances of this sighting, I certainly don't expect this sighting to go anywhere. The purpose of even putting this sighting in ebird is to alert Idaho birders of the possibility. I hope someone can go and check for it.

I have seen many miki and late may is an excellent time of year for one in Idaho!

I suspect if the bird is still around, it would be around the river and greenbelt.

Ps we spent a day at dangerfield jack looking for Cassia Crossbill without success ????"

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Subject: eBird report of Mississippi Kite from last night in Eagle (Ada Co)
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 18:56 pm
From: carlislejay=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
For those not receiving eBird rarity alerts, here's an intriguing report ... and he's right that late spring is the right time for "spring overshoot" vagrancy in this species.  In my experience, out of range kites in spring tend to be here 1 minute, and gone the next (or pretty soon anyway :-) but if anyone's in the area, could be worth a look.
Jay

----- Forwarded Message ----- From: ebird-alert@birds.cornell.edu To: "carlislejay@yahoo.com" Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 1:15:39 AM MDTSubject: [eBird Alert] Idaho Rare Bird Alert
*** Species Summary:

Mississippi Kite (1 Ada)

---------------------------------------------
Thank you for subscribing to the Idaho Rare Bird Alert.The report below shows observations of rare birds in Idaho.  View or unsubscribe to this alert at https://ebird.org/alert/summar...
NOTE: all sightings are UNCONFIRMED unless indicated.

eBird encourages our users to bird safely, responsibly, and mindfully. Please follow the recommendations of your local health authorities and respect any active travel restrictions in your area. For more information visit: https://ebird.org/news/please-...

Mississippi Kite (Ictinia mississippiensis) (1)
- Reported May 31, 2021 19:30 by Kurt Radamaker
- Reid Merrill Park, Ada, Idaho
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S8...
- Comments: "Sub adult.

My wife and I are avid birders visiting family in star Idaho from Scottsdale AZ for Memorial weekend. While eating dinner at coynes restaurant near reid merrill park, we had an unmistakable view of a miki. Size of white tailed kite, long tapered wings with dark primaries, dark underwing, chest, breast and belly marked with horizontal reddish streaks, longish dark tail. Not overall black and white as in white-tailed kite. The sighting was brief and without binoculars, but the bird was fairly close 25ft? It flew low over the tree tops.

With a lack of photos and the poor circumstances of this sighting, I certainly don't expect this sighting to go anywhere. The purpose of even putting this sighting in ebird is to alert Idaho birders of the possibility. I hope someone can go and check for it.

I have seen many miki and late may is an excellent time of year for one in Idaho!

I suspect if the bird is still around, it would be around the river and greenbelt.

Ps we spent a day at dangerfield jack looking for Cassia Crossbill without success ????"

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Subject: eBird report of Mississippi Kite from last night in Eagle (Ada Co)
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 18:56 pm
From: carlislejay=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
For those not receiving eBird rarity alerts, here's an intriguing report ... and he's right that late spring is the right time for "spring overshoot" vagrancy in this species.  In my experience, out of range kites in spring tend to be here 1 minute, and gone the next (or pretty soon anyway :-) but if anyone's in the area, could be worth a look.
Jay

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Mississippi Kite (1 Ada)

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Thank you for subscribing to the Idaho Rare Bird Alert.The report below shows observations of rare birds in Idaho.  View or unsubscribe to this alert at https://ebird.org/alert/summar...
NOTE: all sightings are UNCONFIRMED unless indicated.

eBird encourages our users to bird safely, responsibly, and mindfully. Please follow the recommendations of your local health authorities and respect any active travel restrictions in your area. For more information visit: https://ebird.org/news/please-...

Mississippi Kite (Ictinia mississippiensis) (1)
- Reported May 31, 2021 19:30 by Kurt Radamaker
- Reid Merrill Park, Ada, Idaho
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF...
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S8...
- Comments: "Sub adult.

My wife and I are avid birders visiting family in star Idaho from Scottsdale AZ for Memorial weekend. While eating dinner at coynes restaurant near reid merrill park, we had an unmistakable view of a miki. Size of white tailed kite, long tapered wings with dark primaries, dark underwing, chest, breast and belly marked with horizontal reddish streaks, longish dark tail. Not overall black and white as in white-tailed kite. The sighting was brief and without binoculars, but the bird was fairly close 25ft? It flew low over the tree tops.

With a lack of photos and the poor circumstances of this sighting, I certainly don't expect this sighting to go anywhere. The purpose of even putting this sighting in ebird is to alert Idaho birders of the possibility. I hope someone can go and check for it.

I have seen many miki and late may is an excellent time of year for one in Idaho!

I suspect if the bird is still around, it would be around the river and greenbelt.

Ps we spent a day at dangerfield jack looking for Cassia Crossbill without success ????"

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Subject: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 14:41 pm
From: satuthill AT cableone.net
 
Jason -- thanks for the note back. It makes sense now and I figured something like this was going on. The bottom mile of Orchard Gulch is riparian (at least the first 3/4 mile) then you start climbing up into the sage and bitterbrush hillsides. (BTW -- I had a singing Willow Flycatcher there about 1/2 mile up the trail from the trailhead -- surprised the heck out of me.) I have never gone beyond a mile in but I understand the trail connects with Five Mile and continues to the Ridge Road about 3 miles or so from the trailhead. By the time you get up that high you are back in the fir and pine zone. It sounds like the majority of your time, mileage, and list was on the trail after the first mile. I am going to have to go back up and spend a full day doing the whole trail like you did. That area is really a fun place to bird.

I vaguely have heard about and understand the eBird elevation filter issue. I know the intent is correct even if I always have to put in notes on various species like "not rare here". Maybe when there are more lists and data and eBird refines their processes it will smooth out. But, in the big scheme of things its not a big deal. I spend the winters outside of Tucson, Pima County. The counties in Arizona are huge with even more varied terrain than Ada County. The eBird reviewers for the county worked with eBird and have the county broken up into 20 or 30 different sub areas. (I know I have heard the number, I just don't remember it.) It was a pilot, first of a kind, project with eBird. Folk lore has it that after it was done eBird said - "we aren't really ready to do this sort of thing".

Thanks again for the reply. Hope to run into you out in the field.

Scott Tuthill


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Subject: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 4:32 am
From: jason.talbot1=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
Good grief, time for me to go to bed. I got into more than I intended. The main habitats in the area above the elevation threshold are riparian, sage, hence the Brewers Sparrows, and coniferous.
There are also clusters of Cottonwoods in the riparian area that have produced some Red-eyed Vireos. Some bitter brush mixed in with sage has also produced some Blue-gray Gnatcatchers and Bushtits.
Within a 3 mile hike you can hit all these habitats with a great variety of species. It’s a fun area to bird. Plus I’ve seen two Bears on two different occasions as a bonus!
May God bless and help us sustain the freedoms of this nation! Thanks to all the Veterans who have served our country! Today was a good and humbling day as I’ve thought about your sacrifice.
Good night! 

On Monday, May 31, 2021, 09:25:45 PM MDT, Jason Talbot via groups.io wrote:

I take back one comment. I guess I am dealing with two different habitats within the 5 mile rule on two different trail names, not to mention the road. Riparian and deciduous. You’d most likely not see a Pileated Woodpecker in the riparian section of Orchard Gulch but you might get lucky and hear one.
Jason
On Monday, May 31, 2021, 09:13:12 PM MDT, Jason Talbot wrote:

Hello,
For those unaware of this area, it is in the upper Boise foothills and highest elevation in Ada County. It is down the ridge a few miles from Intermountain Bird Observatory where Boise State has a banding station for owls, raptors and songbirds. 
We get a variety of birds in a few miles of upper elevation along the ridge not seen anywhere else in the county. Pileated Woodpecker for example. Species also vary by season. For example, if I remember correctly, Yellow Warbler flags (rare) earlier in spring at higher elevations when they’re in the valley but don’t get flagged currently. 
Anyway, I continued up the trail onto upper Five Mile Gulch (not road) to the summit and across the summit on the road for a little ways. I hiked up the Orchard Gulch Trail a mile or so before I started my checklist for reasons I won’t go into. I normally start my list at the trailhead. The birds you mentioned were all above tree line.
There’s an elevation filter in eBird between Five Mile and Orchard Gulch Trails as you drive up Shaw Mountain Road. Therefore, I include Upper Five Mile Gulch Trail on my Orchard Gulch list when I continue past where they intersect because of elevation change. If not, it flags many birds as rare because of the higher elevation if I were to include them on my Five Mile Gulch Trail list; which starts below the elevation threshold whereas Orchard Gulch Trail starts above the elevation threshold.
I wish the higher elevation filter were a little less sensitive but it will get dialed in eventually with enough birders reporting in that area. I’ve learned to be patient after going through some frustration because I see the wisdom in creating the elevation filter.
For example, I consistently see Black-headed Grosbeaks, Brewer’s Sparrow and swallows at the higher elevations to name a few. There are still some riparian areas above the elevation threshold as well so you’ll see a Catbird and lower elevation birds every once in a while. Chats are regulars at Orchard Gulch that get flagged.
I’d hate to see an Ada County checklist without an elevation filter that would include Cassin’s Finch as a year round option in the valley when they’re typically seen a few weeks in the spring and fall with a few exceptions yet they’re year round up top. There are several birds that fit this category. It creates a lot more identification mistakes in eBird from new birders.
Good, bad or indifferent, that’s what I decided to do since it’s similar habitat. I’m open to suggestions. I normally keep those details in the comments section but I didn’t this time. That would have helped in this situation and perhaps make this a nonissue.
The other options were create 2 checklists (not) but I’m under the 5 mile rule in the same habitat or create another hotspot which I would be opposed to. 
I liked the way I did it but I should have added comments on how I hiked it.
I think this makes for a good discussion on a couple of topics if others have thoughts.
Jason 
On Monday, May 31, 2021, 10:40:01 AM MDT, Scott Tuthill wrote:

Jason -- I believe you monitor this forum so I hope to contact you this way. I saw your eBird list of May 28 from Orchard Gulch Trailhead. I was there the same day a couple hours after you as well as yesterday. Your list has many birds on it I totally missed and I am interested in how you bird that area to see them. Some birds that stand out were: Hairy and Pileated Woodpecker, Clark's Nutcracker, the nuthatches, Brown Creeper, and Dark-eyed Juncos.  I walked up the trail itself and never came across any of these birds. Did you walk up the road from the trailhead to the summit? Any thoughts would be appreciated. You can reach me here or at satuthill at gmail dot com. Thanks in advance.

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Subject: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 3:25 am
From: jason.talbot1=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
I take back one comment. I guess I am dealing with two different habitats within the 5 mile rule on two different trail names, not to mention the road. Riparian and deciduous. You’d most likely not see a Pileated Woodpecker in the riparian section of Orchard Gulch but you might get lucky and hear one.
Jason
On Monday, May 31, 2021, 09:13:12 PM MDT, Jason Talbot wrote:

Hello,
For those unaware of this area, it is in the upper Boise foothills and highest elevation in Ada County. It is down the ridge a few miles from Intermountain Bird Observatory where Boise State has a banding station for owls, raptors and songbirds. 
We get a variety of birds in a few miles of upper elevation along the ridge not seen anywhere else in the county. Pileated Woodpecker for example. Species also vary by season. For example, if I remember correctly, Yellow Warbler flags (rare) earlier in spring at higher elevations when they’re in the valley but don’t get flagged currently. 
Anyway, I continued up the trail onto upper Five Mile Gulch (not road) to the summit and across the summit on the road for a little ways. I hiked up the Orchard Gulch Trail a mile or so before I started my checklist for reasons I won’t go into. I normally start my list at the trailhead. The birds you mentioned were all above tree line.
There’s an elevation filter in eBird between Five Mile and Orchard Gulch Trails as you drive up Shaw Mountain Road. Therefore, I include Upper Five Mile Gulch Trail on my Orchard Gulch list when I continue past where they intersect because of elevation change. If not, it flags many birds as rare because of the higher elevation if I were to include them on my Five Mile Gulch Trail list; which starts below the elevation threshold whereas Orchard Gulch Trail starts above the elevation threshold.
I wish the higher elevation filter were a little less sensitive but it will get dialed in eventually with enough birders reporting in that area. I’ve learned to be patient after going through some frustration because I see the wisdom in creating the elevation filter.
For example, I consistently see Black-headed Grosbeaks, Brewer’s Sparrow and swallows at the higher elevations to name a few. There are still some riparian areas above the elevation threshold as well so you’ll see a Catbird and lower elevation birds every once in a while. Chats are regulars at Orchard Gulch that get flagged.
I’d hate to see an Ada County checklist without an elevation filter that would include Cassin’s Finch as a year round option in the valley when they’re typically seen a few weeks in the spring and fall with a few exceptions yet they’re year round up top. There are several birds that fit this category. It creates a lot more identification mistakes in eBird from new birders.
Good, bad or indifferent, that’s what I decided to do since it’s similar habitat. I’m open to suggestions. I normally keep those details in the comments section but I didn’t this time. That would have helped in this situation and perhaps make this a nonissue.
The other options were create 2 checklists (not) but I’m under the 5 mile rule in the same habitat or create another hotspot which I would be opposed to. 
I liked the way I did it but I should have added comments on how I hiked it.
I think this makes for a good discussion on a couple of topics if others have thoughts.
Jason 
On Monday, May 31, 2021, 10:40:01 AM MDT, Scott Tuthill wrote:

Jason -- I believe you monitor this forum so I hope to contact you this way. I saw your eBird list of May 28 from Orchard Gulch Trailhead. I was there the same day a couple hours after you as well as yesterday. Your list has many birds on it I totally missed and I am interested in how you bird that area to see them. Some birds that stand out were: Hairy and Pileated Woodpecker, Clark's Nutcracker, the nuthatches, Brown Creeper, and Dark-eyed Juncos.  I walked up the trail itself and never came across any of these birds. Did you walk up the road from the trailhead to the summit? Any thoughts would be appreciated. You can reach me here or at satuthill at gmail dot com. Thanks in advance.

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Subject: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 3:25 am
From: jason.talbot1=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
I take back one comment. I guess I am dealing with two different habitats within the 5 mile rule on two different trail names, not to mention the road. Riparian and deciduous. You’d most likely not see a Pileated Woodpecker in the riparian section of Orchard Gulch but you might get lucky and hear one.
Jason
On Monday, May 31, 2021, 09:13:12 PM MDT, Jason Talbot wrote:

Hello,
For those unaware of this area, it is in the upper Boise foothills and highest elevation in Ada County. It is down the ridge a few miles from Intermountain Bird Observatory where Boise State has a banding station for owls, raptors and songbirds. 
We get a variety of birds in a few miles of upper elevation along the ridge not seen anywhere else in the county. Pileated Woodpecker for example. Species also vary by season. For example, if I remember correctly, Yellow Warbler flags (rare) earlier in spring at higher elevations when they’re in the valley but don’t get flagged currently. 
Anyway, I continued up the trail onto upper Five Mile Gulch (not road) to the summit and across the summit on the road for a little ways. I hiked up the Orchard Gulch Trail a mile or so before I started my checklist for reasons I won’t go into. I normally start my list at the trailhead. The birds you mentioned were all above tree line.
There’s an elevation filter in eBird between Five Mile and Orchard Gulch Trails as you drive up Shaw Mountain Road. Therefore, I include Upper Five Mile Gulch Trail on my Orchard Gulch list when I continue past where they intersect because of elevation change. If not, it flags many birds as rare because of the higher elevation if I were to include them on my Five Mile Gulch Trail list; which starts below the elevation threshold whereas Orchard Gulch Trail starts above the elevation threshold.
I wish the higher elevation filter were a little less sensitive but it will get dialed in eventually with enough birders reporting in that area. I’ve learned to be patient after going through some frustration because I see the wisdom in creating the elevation filter.
For example, I consistently see Black-headed Grosbeaks, Brewer’s Sparrow and swallows at the higher elevations to name a few. There are still some riparian areas above the elevation threshold as well so you’ll see a Catbird and lower elevation birds every once in a while. Chats are regulars at Orchard Gulch that get flagged.
I’d hate to see an Ada County checklist without an elevation filter that would include Cassin’s Finch as a year round option in the valley when they’re typically seen a few weeks in the spring and fall with a few exceptions yet they’re year round up top. There are several birds that fit this category. It creates a lot more identification mistakes in eBird from new birders.
Good, bad or indifferent, that’s what I decided to do since it’s similar habitat. I’m open to suggestions. I normally keep those details in the comments section but I didn’t this time. That would have helped in this situation and perhaps make this a nonissue.
The other options were create 2 checklists (not) but I’m under the 5 mile rule in the same habitat or create another hotspot which I would be opposed to. 
I liked the way I did it but I should have added comments on how I hiked it.
I think this makes for a good discussion on a couple of topics if others have thoughts.
Jason 
On Monday, May 31, 2021, 10:40:01 AM MDT, Scott Tuthill wrote:

Jason -- I believe you monitor this forum so I hope to contact you this way. I saw your eBird list of May 28 from Orchard Gulch Trailhead. I was there the same day a couple hours after you as well as yesterday. Your list has many birds on it I totally missed and I am interested in how you bird that area to see them. Some birds that stand out were: Hairy and Pileated Woodpecker, Clark's Nutcracker, the nuthatches, Brown Creeper, and Dark-eyed Juncos.  I walked up the trail itself and never came across any of these birds. Did you walk up the road from the trailhead to the summit? Any thoughts would be appreciated. You can reach me here or at satuthill at gmail dot com. Thanks in advance.

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Subject: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 3:13 am
From: jason.talbot1=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
Hello,
For those unaware of this area, it is in the upper Boise foothills and highest elevation in Ada County. It is down the ridge a few miles from Intermountain Bird Observatory where Boise State has a banding station for owls, raptors and songbirds. 
We get a variety of birds in a few miles of upper elevation along the ridge not seen anywhere else in the county. Pileated Woodpecker for example. Species also vary by season. For example, if I remember correctly, Yellow Warbler flags (rare) earlier in spring at higher elevations when they’re in the valley but don’t get flagged currently. 
Anyway, I continued up the trail onto upper Five Mile Gulch (not road) to the summit and across the summit on the road for a little ways. I hiked up the Orchard Gulch Trail a mile or so before I started my checklist for reasons I won’t go into. I normally start my list at the trailhead. The birds you mentioned were all above tree line.
There’s an elevation filter in eBird between Five Mile and Orchard Gulch Trails as you drive up Shaw Mountain Road. Therefore, I include Upper Five Mile Gulch Trail on my Orchard Gulch list when I continue past where they intersect because of elevation change. If not, it flags many birds as rare because of the higher elevation if I were to include them on my Five Mile Gulch Trail list; which starts below the elevation threshold whereas Orchard Gulch Trail starts above the elevation threshold.
I wish the higher elevation filter were a little less sensitive but it will get dialed in eventually with enough birders reporting in that area. I’ve learned to be patient after going through some frustration because I see the wisdom in creating the elevation filter.
For example, I consistently see Black-headed Grosbeaks, Brewer’s Sparrow and swallows at the higher elevations to name a few. There are still some riparian areas above the elevation threshold as well so you’ll see a Catbird and lower elevation birds every once in a while. Chats are regulars at Orchard Gulch that get flagged.
I’d hate to see an Ada County checklist without an elevation filter that would include Cassin’s Finch as a year round option in the valley when they’re typically seen a few weeks in the spring and fall with a few exceptions yet they’re year round up top. There are several birds that fit this category. It creates a lot more identification mistakes in eBird from new birders.
Good, bad or indifferent, that’s what I decided to do since it’s similar habitat. I’m open to suggestions. I normally keep those details in the comments section but I didn’t this time. That would have helped in this situation and perhaps make this a nonissue.
The other options were create 2 checklists (not) but I’m under the 5 mile rule in the same habitat or create another hotspot which I would be opposed to. 
I liked the way I did it but I should have added comments on how I hiked it.
I think this makes for a good discussion on a couple of topics if others have thoughts.
Jason 
On Monday, May 31, 2021, 10:40:01 AM MDT, Scott Tuthill wrote:

Jason -- I believe you monitor this forum so I hope to contact you this way. I saw your eBird list of May 28 from Orchard Gulch Trailhead. I was there the same day a couple hours after you as well as yesterday. Your list has many birds on it I totally missed and I am interested in how you bird that area to see them. Some birds that stand out were: Hairy and Pileated Woodpecker, Clark's Nutcracker, the nuthatches, Brown Creeper, and Dark-eyed Juncos.  I walked up the trail itself and never came across any of these birds. Did you walk up the road from the trailhead to the summit? Any thoughts would be appreciated. You can reach me here or at satuthill at gmail dot com. Thanks in advance.

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Subject: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead
Date: Tue Jun 1 2021 3:13 am
From: jason.talbot1=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
Hello,
For those unaware of this area, it is in the upper Boise foothills and highest elevation in Ada County. It is down the ridge a few miles from Intermountain Bird Observatory where Boise State has a banding station for owls, raptors and songbirds. 
We get a variety of birds in a few miles of upper elevation along the ridge not seen anywhere else in the county. Pileated Woodpecker for example. Species also vary by season. For example, if I remember correctly, Yellow Warbler flags (rare) earlier in spring at higher elevations when they’re in the valley but don’t get flagged currently. 
Anyway, I continued up the trail onto upper Five Mile Gulch (not road) to the summit and across the summit on the road for a little ways. I hiked up the Orchard Gulch Trail a mile or so before I started my checklist for reasons I won’t go into. I normally start my list at the trailhead. The birds you mentioned were all above tree line.
There’s an elevation filter in eBird between Five Mile and Orchard Gulch Trails as you drive up Shaw Mountain Road. Therefore, I include Upper Five Mile Gulch Trail on my Orchard Gulch list when I continue past where they intersect because of elevation change. If not, it flags many birds as rare because of the higher elevation if I were to include them on my Five Mile Gulch Trail list; which starts below the elevation threshold whereas Orchard Gulch Trail starts above the elevation threshold.
I wish the higher elevation filter were a little less sensitive but it will get dialed in eventually with enough birders reporting in that area. I’ve learned to be patient after going through some frustration because I see the wisdom in creating the elevation filter.
For example, I consistently see Black-headed Grosbeaks, Brewer’s Sparrow and swallows at the higher elevations to name a few. There are still some riparian areas above the elevation threshold as well so you’ll see a Catbird and lower elevation birds every once in a while. Chats are regulars at Orchard Gulch that get flagged.
I’d hate to see an Ada County checklist without an elevation filter that would include Cassin’s Finch as a year round option in the valley when they’re typically seen a few weeks in the spring and fall with a few exceptions yet they’re year round up top. There are several birds that fit this category. It creates a lot more identification mistakes in eBird from new birders.
Good, bad or indifferent, that’s what I decided to do since it’s similar habitat. I’m open to suggestions. I normally keep those details in the comments section but I didn’t this time. That would have helped in this situation and perhaps make this a nonissue.
The other options were create 2 checklists (not) but I’m under the 5 mile rule in the same habitat or create another hotspot which I would be opposed to. 
I liked the way I did it but I should have added comments on how I hiked it.
I think this makes for a good discussion on a couple of topics if others have thoughts.
Jason 
On Monday, May 31, 2021, 10:40:01 AM MDT, Scott Tuthill wrote:

Jason -- I believe you monitor this forum so I hope to contact you this way. I saw your eBird list of May 28 from Orchard Gulch Trailhead. I was there the same day a couple hours after you as well as yesterday. Your list has many birds on it I totally missed and I am interested in how you bird that area to see them. Some birds that stand out were: Hairy and Pileated Woodpecker, Clark's Nutcracker, the nuthatches, Brown Creeper, and Dark-eyed Juncos.  I walked up the trail itself and never came across any of these birds. Did you walk up the road from the trailhead to the summit? Any thoughts would be appreciated. You can reach me here or at satuthill at gmail dot com. Thanks in advance.

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Subject: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead
Date: Mon May 31 2021 16:40 pm
From: satuthill AT cableone.net
 
Jason -- I believe you monitor this forum so I hope to contact you this way. I saw your eBird list of May 28 from Orchard Gulch Trailhead. I was there the same day a couple hours after you as well as yesterday. Your list has many birds on it I totally missed and I am interested in how you bird that area to see them. Some birds that stand out were: Hairy and Pileated Woodpecker, Clark's Nutcracker, the nuthatches, Brown Creeper, and Dark-eyed Juncos.  I walked up the trail itself and never came across any of these birds. Did you walk up the road from the trailhead to the summit? Any thoughts would be appreciated. You can reach me here or at satuthill at gmail dot com. Thanks in advance.

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Subject: N Catbird
Date: Sun May 30 2021 16:48 pm
From: lcarrigan_55=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
Appreciate the responses. Given your response, Bill, was hoping some House Wrens would show today, but no luck. However, don't give up hope on the BH-RB Grosbeak hybrid, the first that appeared on our place sev yrs ago was a hybrid, just like Sibley's.

Hadn't seen the RB Grosbeak since last WK, but appeared briefly at feeder this AM. Also, Bullock's Oriole & W Tanager. Added the orange slice/grape jelly feeder today.

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Subject: N Catbird
Date: Sun May 30 2021 11:29 am
From: bchuizinga AT cableone.net
 
I’ll add to the “House Wrens -  Where Are They Question”.  I have seen/heard several at Deer Flat Refuge in Nampa and when birding out and about in SW Idaho, but we have had them nesting in our yard for several years but not this year.  And I’m not seeing/hearing as many as in past.
Cheryl in Caldwell

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From: Elizabeth Medes
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:12 PM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] N Catbird

Odd... I'm hearing house wrens nearly every day except in our backyard, where they set up housekeeping last year in a super deluxe bungalow hand-made and painted by a friend in Boise.  I'll just have to be patient.  Catbirds are in Montour WMA; chats, lazulis, and yellow warblers all in their quarters, nearby kestrels have fledged, saw female western tanagers this a.m. on Shalerock Rd, near Black Canyon Res.  Surprise Dusky flycatcher at Emmett Wastewater Treatment Plant this afternoon.

And that's the Gem County minute,

Liz Medes

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 3:52 PM lcarrigan_55 via groups.io wrote:
New arrival today is a N Catbird. Plenty of BH Grosbeaks, Lazuli Buntings & Yellow Warblers here. Finally saw a W Tanager yest AM. Curiously absent are House Wrens. Have seen a total of 2, this spring, over 3 wk apart. Usually, by now, already building their nests. And know where at least 4 should be nesting. Zero around for past 10 days. Do have a robin nesting under eave of garage at bend in gutter downspout. And have seen a Wild Turkey with 2 young fluff balls trotting beneath her. 

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Subject: N Catbird
Date: Sun May 30 2021 0:12 am
From: liz.medes AT gmail.com
 
Odd... I'm hearing house wrens nearly every day except in our backyard,
where they set up housekeeping last year in a super deluxe bungalow
hand-made and painted by a friend in Boise. I'll just have to be patient.
Catbirds are in Montour WMA; chats, lazulis, and yellow warblers all in
their quarters, nearby kestrels have fledged, saw female western tanagers
this a.m. on Shalerock Rd, near Black Canyon Res. Surprise Dusky
flycatcher at Emmett Wastewater Treatment Plant this afternoon.

And that's the Gem County minute,

Liz Medes

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> New arrival today is a N Catbird. Plenty of BH Grosbeaks, Lazuli Buntings
> & Yellow Warblers here. Finally saw a W Tanager yest AM. Curiously absent
> are House Wrens. Have seen a total of 2, this spring, over 3 wk apart.
> Usually, by now, already building their nests. And know where at least 4
> should be nesting. Zero around for past 10 days. Do have a robin nesting
> under eave of garage at bend in gutter downspout. And have seen a Wild
> Turkey with 2 young fluff balls trotting beneath her.
>
> Brian Carrigan
> Blackfoot
>
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Subject: N Catbird
Date: Sat May 29 2021 22:26 pm
From: hootowlbill AT gmail.com
 
Our house wrens showed up en masse yesterday. I saw at least five at one time and they seem to be staking out usual sites around the house, in the woods and at the barn. Interesting thing was one of the first had a faulty, unusual song. When the gang appeared the faulty song stopped and everyone is now singing familiar refrain. You’d think it would have heard right song in winter range. They are a full month later than last year.

We’ve got hummers hitting feeders, but at a rate that’s about a third the rate over the last several years. They showed up on time however. I wonder if bird disease is reducing their numbers. I see no evidence of sick or slower birds however.

Lots of Lazuli and BH Grosbeaks and Cassins are still hanging out as are SIskens. My latest project is trying to turn some of the BH into BH/Rosebreasted hybrids per Sibley. As usual Evenings fled when BH appeared. Turkeys encourage dogs to want to get up and chase them out back at about 5:45 AM most mornings.

Bill Moore
Hoot Owl
Inkom
> On May 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, lcarrigan_55 via groups.io wrote:
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> Sorry, meant Gray Catbird! Had Northern on my mind, as had been talking to another birder about N Goshawk sightings this past winter.
>
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Subject: N Catbird
Date: Sat May 29 2021 22:11 pm
From: lcarrigan_55=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
Sorry, meant Gray Catbird! Had Northern on my mind, as had been talking to another birder about N Goshawk sightings this past winter.

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Subject: N Catbird
Date: Sat May 29 2021 21:52 pm
From: lcarrigan_55=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
New arrival today is a N Catbird. Plenty of BH Grosbeaks, Lazuli Buntings & Yellow Warblers here. Finally saw a W Tanager yest AM. Curiously absent are House Wrens. Have seen a total of 2, this spring, over 3 wk apart. Usually, by now, already building their nests. And know where at least 4 should be nesting. Zero around for past 10 days. Do have a robin nesting under eave of garage at bend in gutter downspout. And have seen a Wild Turkey with 2 young fluff balls trotting beneath her.

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Subject: Jack,s creek
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Subject: Jack,s creek
Date: Fri May 28 2021 3:23 am
From: photobirder AT gmail.com
 
26  27th camped Wednesday night.        Terns. Comm   .blk. Caspian
foresters. 15 20 Ibis flying 50 pelicans doz. Corms. W.w.peewee bull.
Oriole yellow warb.song sparrow. Marsh wren snipe osprey west & Clark's
grebe. Gadwall. Gulls California ring bill. Merlin says this one
glaucous also willow fly cat.


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Subject: Jack,s creek
Date: Fri May 28 2021 3:23 am
From: photobirder AT gmail.com
 
26  27th camped Wednesday night.        Terns. Comm   .blk. Caspian
foresters. 15 20 Ibis flying 50 pelicans doz. Corms. W.w.peewee bull.
Oriole yellow warb.song sparrow. Marsh wren snipe osprey west & Clark's
grebe. Gadwall. Gulls California ring bill. Merlin says this one
glaucous also willow fly cat.


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Subject: Tame Red Crossbill's
Date: Tue May 25 2021 19:00 pm
From: 41onesweetworld AT gmail.com
 
Yesterday I had three sick female species of HOFI, PISI, and HOSP. The HOFI had labored breathing, sleepy eyes, and food stuck at the corner of her mouth. All three exhibited no fear as I walked towards them and knew right away they were sick. I had just disinfected and washed the feeders that day and had them out to air dry. I put up clean ones stored in the shed but took them down as soon as I noticed the sick birds. I will disinfect them and also drain and disinfect all water features today.

It makes me so sad to see them suffer.

I’m in Emmett.

Sincerely,

Gina

“The bluebird carries the sky on his back”~Henry David Thoreau


> On May 25, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Heidi Ware Carlisle wrote:
>
> ?
> Not to be a Debbie Downer, but quite often these "tame" birds, especially those in the finch family, are actually sick. There is an outbreak of Salmonellosis this year among siskins, finches, and crossbills. It seems to have subsided in some areas but not all. Last week in Idaho City I visited a feeder setup and saw a number of infected Cassin's Finches, so it is still going around.
>
> You can tell infected birds because they will be slow to fly away, not-wary of people, may have fluffed up feathers and look "fatter" compared to other individuals of the same species. The birds often sit on the feeder and eat voraciously until the late stages of the disease.
> They may also be more "blinky" or sleepy, and may be unable to fly or have weak flight. Up close if the disease is severe you will hear clicking or scratchy labored breathing.
>
> In this case it certainly sounds like you have sick birds. It is important to take your feeder down and bleach it with a 10% bleach solution. Leave the feeders down for at least two weeks to allow sick birds to disperse. When hanging feeders back up, be sure to watch frequently for sick birds and remove the feeders again if sick birds reappear. Even if no sick birds are spotted, continue to bleach your feeders with a 10% bleach solution at least once a week.
> The sickness is spread through droppings so be sure to remove any dropping accumulations by raking the ground, and remove any accumulated seed on the ground. Bird baths and flat platform feeders also accumulate droppings and should be removed.
>
> Of note, just because you have sick birds on your feeders doesn't mean it's your fault. Even if you have the cleanest feeder around, if even one of your neighbors has a poorly cleaned feeder, the disease will continue to spread. All we can do is remove our feeders when we spot sick birds, and help spread the word to others in the area to take their feeders down too.
>
> Here's a link to the IDFG Salmonella updates. The headline says southern Idaho but this outbreak has been seen throughout Idaho and many other western states. https://idfg.idaho.gov/press/s...
>
> Heidi
> Intermountain Bird Observatory
>
>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:12 AM Dave & Brenda Pace wrote:
>> We have had a flock of about 10 Red Crossbill's hitting our feeders for the last week. Yesterday I decided the feeders were getting a little low so went out to the garage and got the seed bucket and started walking into the front yard. Most all the birds flushed but not the Crossbill's feeding on the feeder. I slowly walked right up to 4 of them. One of them was on a metal branch on the feeder stand without access to any seeds so I slowly took a scoop of the seeds and raised it up to the Crossbill and he just sat there and ate out of the scoop until my arm got tired. I am amazed that wild birds could be so approachable.
>>
>> I was curious if anyone else had experienced anything like this with them before and if that was a common trait they exhibit.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dave Pace
>> Idaho Falls, ID (Westside)
>
>


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Subject: Tame Red Crossbill's
Date: Tue May 25 2021 17:27 pm
From: heidithebirdnerd AT gmail.com
 
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but quite often these "tame" birds, especially
those in the finch family, are actually sick. There is an outbreak of
Salmonellosis this year among siskins, finches, and crossbills. It seems to
have subsided in some areas but not all. Last week in Idaho City I visited
a feeder setup and saw a number of infected Cassin's Finches, so it is
still going around.

You can tell infected birds because they will be slow to fly away, not-wary
of people, may have fluffed up feathers and look "fatter" compared to other
individuals of the same species. The birds often sit on the feeder and eat
voraciously until the late stages of the disease.
They may also be more "blinky" or sleepy, and may be unable to fly or have
weak flight. Up close if the disease is severe you will hear clicking or
scratchy labored breathing.

In this case it certainly sounds like you have sick birds. It is important
to take your feeder down and bleach it with a 10% bleach solution. Leave
the feeders down for at least two weeks to allow sick birds to disperse.
When hanging feeders back up, be sure to watch frequently for sick birds
and remove the feeders again if sick birds reappear. Even if no sick birds
are spotted, continue to bleach your feeders with a 10% bleach solution at
least once a week.
The sickness is spread through droppings so be sure to remove any dropping
accumulations by raking the ground, and remove any accumulated seed on the
ground. Bird baths and flat platform feeders also accumulate droppings and
should be removed.

Of note, just because you have sick birds on your feeders doesn't mean it's
your fault. Even if you have the cleanest feeder around, if even one of
your neighbors has a poorly cleaned feeder, the disease will continue to
spread. All we can do is remove our feeders when we spot sick birds, and
help spread the word to others in the area to take their feeders down too.

Here's a link to the IDFG Salmonella updates. The headline says southern
Idaho but this outbreak has been seen throughout Idaho and many other
western states.
https://idfg.idaho.gov/press/s...

Heidi
Intermountain Bird Observatory

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:12 AM Dave & Brenda Pace wrote:

> We have had a flock of about 10 Red Crossbill's hitting our feeders for
> the last week. Yesterday I decided the feeders were getting a little low
> so went out to the garage and got the seed bucket and started walking into
> the front yard. Most all the birds flushed but not the Crossbill's feeding
> on the feeder. I slowly walked right up to 4 of them. One of them was on
> a metal branch on the feeder stand without access to any seeds so I slowly
> took a scoop of the seeds and raised it up to the Crossbill and he just sat
> there and ate out of the scoop until my arm got tired. I am amazed that
> wild birds could be so approachable.
>
> I was curious if anyone else had experienced anything like this with them
> before and if that was a common trait they exhibit.
>
> Thanks
> Dave Pace
> Idaho Falls, ID (Westside)
>
>
>


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Subject: Tame Red Crossbill's
Date: Tue May 25 2021 17:12 pm
From: dbpace AT q.com
 
We have had a flock of about 10 Red Crossbill's hitting our feeders for the last week.  Yesterday I decided the feeders were getting a little low so went out to the garage and got the seed bucket and started walking into the front yard.  Most all the birds flushed but not the Crossbill's feeding on the feeder.  I slowly walked right up to 4 of them.  One of them was on a metal branch on the feeder stand without access to any seeds so I slowly took a scoop of the seeds and raised it up to the Crossbill and he just sat there and ate out of the scoop until my arm got tired.  I am amazed that wild birds could be so approachable.

I was curious if anyone else had experienced anything like this with them before and if that was a common trait they exhibit.

Thanks
Dave Pace
Idaho Falls, ID (Westside)


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Subject: 2 New Arrivals
Date: Sun May 23 2021 18:47 pm
From: lcarrigan_55=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
Have found a Swainson's Thrush & an Empid that wasn't calling & most likely, for here, was a Dusky Flycatcher, but was wagging tail "downward" which Sibley's indicates would be a Gray. Unfortunately, wasn't calling. Rounded head, grayish overall with no olive or yellowish & indistinct upper wing bar. Was flycatching just above our coldwater, spring channel that leads to the Snake River & lined with sandbar willows & narrowleaf cottonwoods. Mainly staying at about a 4-5' level.

No sighting of the RB Grosbeak today, but plenty of BH Grosbeaks, Lazuli Buntings & House Finches. A pair of Black-chinned Hummingbirds is hitting the nectar feeder. Believe the female is nest-building in the blue spruce on west side of house. One, lone Pine Siskin to the thistle feeder yesterday evening, but the large numbers are gone. Yellow Warblers are numerous.

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot


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Subject: Ponds
Date: Sun May 23 2021 13:35 pm
From: natureguy9039 AT gmail.com
 
The duck looks like a Gadwall to me!
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Subject: Snowy Plovers / Indian Creek Reservoir
Date: Sun May 23 2021 1:48 am
From: cliffandlisa AT octobersetters.com
 
I just received a report that two Snowy Plovers were found at Indian
Creek Reservoir today. I thought I'd pass it along in case anyone wants
to chase them. Good luck.

Cliff

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Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com



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Subject: Snowy Plovers / Indian Creek Reservoir
Date: Sun May 23 2021 1:48 am
From: cliffandlisa AT octobersetters.com
 
I just received a report that two Snowy Plovers were found at Indian
Creek Reservoir today. I thought I'd pass it along in case anyone wants
to chase them. Good luck.

Cliff

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Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com



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Subject: Rose-breasted Grosbeak
Date: Sat May 22 2021 22:40 pm
From: lcarrigan_55=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
Maybe my Evening Grosbeaks & Pine Siskins headed west. In exchange, shoo a few of those W Tanagers to the east side of the state!

The Rose-breasted Grosbeak has hit the seed feeder 3 times today for just brief intervals.

Brian


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Subject: Rose-breasted Grosbeak
Date: Sat May 22 2021 5:03 am
From: tmccabe9 AT cableone.net
 
I don’t have any Rose-breasted Grosbeak sightings to add, but I find it interesting that I am still seeing/hearing Pine Siskins, I found a large flock of Evening Grosbeaks today, as well as Western Tanagers for the last 3 days. Plus, I had my first Western Wood Pewee yesterday, and I’ve enjoyed at least 40 species each of the last 3 days, even in the pouring rain today. Gotta love migration. You never know who’s around the next bend. ;-)

Tom McCabe, Boise



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Just had a RB Grosbeak male in full adult color appear at feeder. Had to look back in my records & first appearance of one at our river location was in 2017. Have seen at least one every Spring since. A couple yrs ago had 3 appear. Never stay long, but always a beautiful "shock" to see! And definitely, king of the feeder! I'll see 5-6 BH Grosbeaks stacked all around & if any try to reach the platform, a quick nip by the RB & off the BH go!

Others: Lazuli Bunting, House Wren, Yellow Warbler, Am Robin, Song Sparrow, House Finch, BC Chickadee & BC Hummingbird. The Pine Siskins, Evening Grosbeaks, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Juncos & Chipping Sparrows have moved on. Still waiting for Western Tanager.

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot





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Subject: Rose-breasted Grosbeak
Date: Sat May 22 2021 2:55 am
From: dstoneak2id AT gmail.com
 
I enjoyed reading about your Grosbeak observations. You have a nice variety
of species. Good luck on the W Tanager. I hope it appears.

Diann Stone
Boise Depot Bench

On Fri, May 21, 2021, 9:10 AM lcarrigan_55 via groups.io wrote:

> Just had a RB Grosbeak male in full adult color appear at feeder. Had to
> look back in my records & first appearance of one at our river location was
> in 2017. Have seen at least one every Spring since. A couple yrs ago had 3
> appear. Never stay long, but always a beautiful "shock" to see! And
> definitely, king of the feeder! I'll see 5-6 BH Grosbeaks stacked all
> around & if any try to reach the platform, a quick nip by the RB & off the
> BH go!
>
> Others: Lazuli Bunting, House Wren, Yellow Warbler, Am Robin, Song
> Sparrow, House Finch, BC Chickadee & BC Hummingbird. The Pine Siskins,
> Evening Grosbeaks, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Juncos & Chipping Sparrows
> have moved on. Still waiting for Western Tanager.
>
> Brian Carrigan
> Blackfoot
>
>


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Subject: Rose-breasted Grosbeak
Date: Fri May 21 2021 15:13 pm
From: bryan.forsmann AT gmail.com
 
Also had our first hairy bat last night.

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:10 AM lcarrigan_55 via groups.io wrote:

> Just had a RB Grosbeak male in full adult color appear at feeder. Had to
> look back in my records & first appearance of one at our river location was
> in 2017. Have seen at least one every Spring since. A couple yrs ago had 3
> appear. Never stay long, but always a beautiful "shock" to see! And
> definitely, king of the feeder! I'll see 5-6 BH Grosbeaks stacked all
> around & if any try to reach the platform, a quick nip by the RB & off the
> BH go!
>
> Others: Lazuli Bunting, House Wren, Yellow Warbler, Am Robin, Song
> Sparrow, House Finch, BC Chickadee & BC Hummingbird. The Pine Siskins,
> Evening Grosbeaks, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Juncos & Chipping Sparrows
> have moved on. Still waiting for Western Tanager.
>
> Brian Carrigan
> Blackfoot
>
>
>

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Subject: Rose-breasted Grosbeak
Date: Fri May 21 2021 15:12 pm
From: bryan.forsmann AT gmail.com
 
Yes, I am still waiting for western tanagers as well.

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:10 AM lcarrigan_55 via groups.io wrote:

> Just had a RB Grosbeak male in full adult color appear at feeder. Had to
> look back in my records & first appearance of one at our river location was
> in 2017. Have seen at least one every Spring since. A couple yrs ago had 3
> appear. Never stay long, but always a beautiful "shock" to see! And
> definitely, king of the feeder! I'll see 5-6 BH Grosbeaks stacked all
> around & if any try to reach the platform, a quick nip by the RB & off the
> BH go!
>
> Others: Lazuli Bunting, House Wren, Yellow Warbler, Am Robin, Song
> Sparrow, House Finch, BC Chickadee & BC Hummingbird. The Pine Siskins,
> Evening Grosbeaks, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Juncos & Chipping Sparrows
> have moved on. Still waiting for Western Tanager.
>
> Brian Carrigan
> Blackfoot
>
>
>

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"*Where the Energy Flows, That's What Grows*."
Bryan L Forsmann
208-520-0508
831 Dalmation Drive
Idaho Falls Idaho 83402
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Subject: Rose-breasted Grosbeak
Date: Fri May 21 2021 15:10 pm
From: lcarrigan_55=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
Just had a RB Grosbeak male in full adult color appear at feeder. Had to look back in my records & first appearance of one at our river location was in 2017. Have seen at least one every Spring since. A couple yrs ago had 3 appear. Never stay long, but always a beautiful "shock" to see! And definitely, king of the feeder! I'll see 5-6 BH Grosbeaks stacked all around & if any try to reach the platform, a quick nip by the RB & off the BH go!

Others: Lazuli Bunting, House Wren, Yellow Warbler, Am Robin, Song Sparrow, House Finch, BC Chickadee & BC Hummingbird. The Pine Siskins, Evening Grosbeaks, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Juncos & Chipping Sparrows have moved on. Still waiting for Western Tanager.

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot


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Subject: Dry lake
Date: Mon May 17 2021 19:34 pm
From: photobirder AT gmail.com
 
10AM not much water 2 avocets 1ca.gull. ponds on rim rd.1 s.of stage coach
nada 2nd one dry pond big foot 6 cinnamon teals and pond Dearborn 1spotted
sandpiper found some one who knew about water dry lake due to low water
this season they have to cut back use


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Subject: Dry lake
Date: Mon May 17 2021 19:34 pm
From: photobirder AT gmail.com
 
10AM not much water 2 avocets 1ca.gull. ponds on rim rd.1 s.of stage coach
nada 2nd one dry pond big foot 6 cinnamon teals and pond Dearborn 1spotted
sandpiper found some one who knew about water dry lake due to low water
this season they have to cut back use


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Subject: Lazuli Buntings
Date: Mon May 17 2021 14:19 pm
From: birderfitz AT gmail.com
 
Yes, I’ve had two or three every morning and evening here in the North End. And I live on 6th street close to downtown.

> On May 17, 2021, at 8:17 AM, billiet49 via groups.io wrote:
>
> I live in Boise and a few years ago I had a Lazuli stop at my water fountain, so don't give up hope. Also my son lives in Emmett and he has one coming to their yard now.
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Subject: Lazuli Buntings
Date: Mon May 17 2021 14:17 pm
From: billiet49=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
I live in Boise and a few years ago I had a Lazuli stop at my water fountain, so don't give up hope. Also my son lives in Emmett and he has one coming to their yard now.


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Subject: New arrivals
Date: Mon May 17 2021 3:09 am
From: tmccabe9 AT cableone.net
 
In the last week, riding my regular route 6 of the 7 days, I found the
following FOY birds: Bullock's Oriole, Black-headed Grosbeak, Evening
Grosbeak, Western Grebe, House Wren, and Blue-winged Teal. Plus, a pair of
Swainson's Hawks have taken up residence in a nest they built a few years
ago (and got ejected from by some Red-tailed Hawks). The nest is 3 blocks
from my house. ;-) But I still haven't found where the neighborhood Cooper's
Hawk nest is. I only know the vicinity. :-(

I've been able to tally 40 or more birds on 4 of my last 7 rides, with
Willow Lane Athletic Complex a magnet for some of the FOY's, plus YR
Warblers, Cassin's Finches (male and female), Downy Woodpecker, BH Cowbird,
etc. My one long ride of 22 miles netted over 50 birds.

BTW, I'm sure a bunch of you are familiar with Bird Cast, which tells you
the expected nighttime migration in your area. The link is here:
https://birdcast.info/migratio... Just put in
your location, and it will give you their prediction. For Boise it has been
predicting "High" migration, meaning 3,000 migrating birds per kilometer per
night, for the last few nights and the next 3 nights. It only predicts 3
nights out, and it only continues until June 1. Check it out.

Tom McCabe, Boise



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Subject: Lazuli Buntings
Date: Mon May 17 2021 0:22 am
From: historysaver AT gmail.com
 
Lazulis love Daniels Creek up Bogus Basin Rd above Boise. I should check.
I'll praise your name when I find them, Ruth.

Kevin Merrell

On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 5:13 PM Diann Stone wrote:

> Thank you for your location. Blackfoot is a long way from where I live, so
> I will refrain from from hoping to see them near me. I've never had
> Lazulis in my yard in Boise, not close enough to a canal or stream.
>
> Diann Stone
> Boise Depot Bench
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2021, 10:31 AM Ruth Shea wrote:
>
>> forgot to say in my last post that I'm on the very east edge of Blackfoot
>> next to a canal with edges that are managed like a cottonwood/brush habitat
>>
>> Ruth Shea
>>
>
>
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Subject: Lazuli Buntings
Date: Sun May 16 2021 23:13 pm
From: dstoneak2id AT gmail.com
 
Thank you for your location. Blackfoot is a long way from where I live, so
I will refrain from from hoping to see them near me. I've never had
Lazulis in my yard in Boise, not close enough to a canal or stream.

Diann Stone
Boise Depot Bench

On Sun, May 16, 2021, 10:31 AM Ruth Shea wrote:

> forgot to say in my last post that I'm on the very east edge of Blackfoot
> next to a canal with edges that are managed like a cottonwood/brush habitat
>
> Ruth Shea
>
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Subject: Lazuli Buntings
Date: Sun May 16 2021 16:31 pm
From: ruthshea14 AT gmail.com
 
forgot to say in my last post that I'm on the very east edge of Blackfoot
next to a canal with edges that are managed like a cottonwood/brush habitat

Ruth Shea


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Subject: Black-Throated Sparrow at Dedication Point
Date: Sat May 15 2021 16:02 pm
From: jrb4jc AT hotmail.com
 
Great find, Marty!  That is the singular place in Idaho that I have found that bird in past years.  Its a good sign that it is still showing up there!  Dedication Point seems to be a sparrow magnet  we used to see about 6-7 species right there.  If my memory serves me right, they were Black-throated, Sagebrush, Vesper, Brewers White-crowned, Savannah and Lark.  Enjoy the weekendJonathan

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Marty Marzinelli via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 6:19 PM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: [IBLE] Black-Throated Sparrow at Dedication Point

Hi, I came across a BTSP this morning at Dedication Point which is on Swan Falls Road, south of Kuna, and overlooks the Snake River. The bird was located in the shrubs just off the trail at the south end of the overlook (wall) itself. This is the upstream side of the Snake River. I had trouble with my cell connection at the time and thus couldn't report it earlier.

Cheers,
Marty Marzinelli (Eagle)





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Subject: Warbler!
Date: Sat May 15 2021 12:22 pm
From: lcarrigan_55=yahoo.com AT groups.io
 
2 new arrivals yest afternoon: a male Wilson's Warbler & a House Wren. First warbler I've seen since last Fall & it beat the Yellows here. For over 30 yrs, Yellow Warbler has been first to arrive & first to leave.

Black-chinned Hummingbird male is still hitting the nectar feeder. A pair has nested on our place for the past sev yrs & I did see a female last week. Still waiting on Bullock's Oriole & W Tanager.

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot


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Subject: Black-Throated Sparrow at Dedication Point
Date: Sat May 15 2021 2:22 am
From: akswanson AT cableone.net
 
Glorious.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: "Marty Marzinelli via groups.io" Date: 5/14/21 6:19 PM (GMT-07:00) To: IBLE@groups.io Subject: [IBLE] Black-Throated Sparrow at Dedication Point Hi,  I came across a BTSP this morning at Dedication Point which is on Swan Falls Road, south of Kuna, and overlooks the Snake River.  The bird was located in the shrubs just off the trail at the south end of the overlook (wall) itself.  This is the upstream side of the Snake River.  I had trouble with my cell connection at the time and thus couldn't report it earlier.Cheers,Marty Marzinelli (Eagle)






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Subject: Black-Throated Sparrow at Dedication Point
Date: Sat May 15 2021 1:01 am
From: chukar28=icloud.com AT groups.io
 
Cool find I saw and photographed my first one Tuesday AM off Mudflat Road.

> On May 14, 2021, at 6:18 PM, Marty Marzinelli via groups.io wrote:
>
> Hi, I came across a BTSP this morning at Dedication Point which is on Swan Falls Road, south of Kuna, and overlooks the Snake River. The bird was located in the shrubs just off the trail at the south end of the overlook (wall) itself. This is the upstream side of the Snake River. I had trouble with my cell connection at the time and thus couldn't report it earlier.
>
> Cheers,
> Marty Marzinelli (Eagle)
>
>
>
>

Ken Miracle
chukar28@icloud.com
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5



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